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In The Palms 03 Remix by tatehemlock In The Palms 03 Remix by tatehemlock
My three year anniversary on Model Mayhem is fast approaching in October so while I have been recovering from my accident I have been looking at a lot of my photos from 2006 and earlier.

Back then photography was a hobby. Sometimes I would take pics for art projects or to do drawings or because I'd meet a girl I thought was worth photographing. After I met Jessi Frances and started taking pics with her she kept telling me I should put my photos online. She showed me Model Mayhem and thought it would make it easier for me to find models to shoot with that way. Anyway, I finally caved in and set up an acct. A few months later I found myself here on DA. The rest I guess is history.

Anyway, back in that time period I decided to switch to a digital format thinking it was all magic. I had no clue how to use Photoshop. It was like a magic bag of tricks. So sometimes when I look at the original photos from that time that I shot I think, "Oh this isn't as bad as I remembered." Then I look at my edited version and cringe. What was I thinking?

So I hit upon this photo and thought, "Oh I like that one!" So I re-edited it last night and it is truer to the original. Why on Earth I shot it at 400 ISO is beyond me. If I could go back in time I'd change the camera settings for myself LOL

Here is the original:

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TheTooginator Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Tate! I drew "Jessi in the Palms"! I think it's OK (it could have been better, but I'm rusty). You got me off my ass though and provided me with a great source photo. If you don't like it for any reason, I will delete it immediately! Maybe I'm too critical of myself, but I was hoping to do a better job. I also hope that it would be OK if I used another of your photos for my next drawing.
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014  Professional Photographer
No prob! Feel free! As long as you are creating art, it's all good!!
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TheTooginator Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Cool! I like the challenge of having a certain responsibility to do justice to your great photographs - and there's certainly no shortage of those! I am tempted to try a painting next time. We'll see.
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TheTooginator Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow! Beautiful! I wish there were better adjectives to use, but that's my reaction. I saw some of your other photos and my impression is that there is a nice mixture of beauty, sexiness, elegance and fun. Bravo!

Jessi is a total doll though! Very "muse-worthy". I saw the original, and I hate to admit it, but I think your digital touch-ups make a better picture.
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2014  Professional Photographer
Yeah I ain't too shabby when it comes to post-processsing :)
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TheTooginator Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, I think you found just the right balance of improving the original image while preserving what she really looks like.
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sexxylilladybug Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
I need her shirt!
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2010  Professional Photographer
LOL
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Bodyartist Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2009
FWIW: I like the original better. This one has that over airbrushed look to the face. If you look at the original, there's subtle detail in the cheeks that make it natural. That's lost in the re-make and it looks like a mask.

The first one needed a bit of retouching, and the new one has too much.

IMHO.
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2009  Professional Photographer
Right on, I can see that. My biggest complaint with it is the graininess in the original image. I try to make my images sharp and I did not always do that so much back in those days.
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Bodyartist Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2009
Yeah, the grain from the high ISO, and the noise in the shadows. But, it's still nice :) It's "retro" <G>

I've actually started shooting some at higher ISO (300-400) to get some of that back into the images. I know there is a school that says shoot the best quality original, then muck it up later. But, sometimes you can't just duplicate real grain, and real noise with any filter or effect.

If I'm shooting for prints I try for the best original (usually), but if I'm shooting for mostly on-line display, I'll get a little more creative, and push ISO or other features. I'm finding it more "natural" in many ways than "perfection" in the image/exposure.

Think in terms of film, and work with it, don't try to eliminate it. Our eye is used to merging dots, and filling in gaps. What it's not used to doing, is trying to add detail to a smooth, airbrushed face. We treat faces very differently in our mental processing, and in most cases, less is more. Faces are important to us, as a species. Even a minor shadow, or texture is important to us on a subconscious level.

You can use the noise filters to reduce the color noise in the shadows and the upper right forehead (her right). But, let the grain/detail come through, maybe just a _little_ sharpening of the eyes, and details, while leaving the skin and background a bit softer.

That's one thing digital has made a lot easier than the old darkroom process. Used to have to "diffuse" part of the exposure, and parts of the image with different tools in a "clown like" fashion. Now, it's all layers and such.

Scott
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2009  Professional Photographer
Well I used to shoot on film. Just as I was getting to the point that I was happy with my images and prints, I switched to digital. For some images I definitely aim for a film style. Esp outdoors I will shoot at a higher ISO depending on what I am aiming for. For studio stuff I tend to go for sharp and bright. Sometimes I feel I overly Photoshop an image but sometimes this is more to please the model than myself. I personally don't mind imperfections. Models however, not so much LOL

In the case of this photo though it's like if I only knew then what I know now! But even today it is still a learning process and I am always trying to get better!
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frankmarlowe Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2009   Photographer
Absolutely gorgeous work, per usual. ;)

Best thing is, "Paradise City" by G'n'R just cued up on my playlist. Now I wanna go lay on a beach with a fruity drink. :XD:
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2009  Professional Photographer
I hear you there! :)
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chicoflaco Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2009
stunner
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2009  Professional Photographer
yes she is!! :)
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Magmacat1993 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2009
Absolutely beautiful!
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2009  Professional Photographer
Thank you!!
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Zeax82 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
So VERY gorgeous!
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009  Professional Photographer
Indeed! :)
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darthmarlan Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009
I play about with so many different styles myself, i really need to just pick a few and get into some serious shooting.

This is pretty cool tho. My new cam gives me the chance to shoot as low as 50iso, which i tend to use as much as possible, but can go to some insane amounts.
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009  Professional Photographer
I'm hoping to be back to doing some shooting myself now!!
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darthmarlan Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2009
:D
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iwantimac2005 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
and here myself i was going to say : this is so different from you .. now i see why . but i still like it ...
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009  Professional Photographer
So I'm curious. What stands out as being the most different and the most similar comparing this piece to more recent works?
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iwantimac2005 Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
Well , first than all . this is an outdoor shot , it has less photoshop included on it , it looks more natural , i will say less equipment was used here , natural light was worked on ...
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2009  Professional Photographer
Perhaps I should spend some time shooting outdoors again. Might be good for me :)
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iwantimac2005 Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
that is such a great idea ... i hope you do it .
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2009  Professional Photographer
After this weekend I'm thinking of something outdoors to do! :)
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femaleartlover Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
beautiful model, beautiful shot Tate!sometimes FATE leads us down paths we are destined to go !

Joy :rose:
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009  Professional Photographer
Sometimes I think perhaps it was my fate to do photography, sometimes I wonder where on Earth I ever got the idea I should be one! LOL

I remember at the time thinking, "This is my best photo shoot ever!" Then when I started surfing around Model Mayhem I got a little discouraged.

But I feel I have always strived to improve and to learn from my errors :)

Jessi was a fantastic model to learn from. I owe a lot of this to her. Thank you Jessi!!
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femaleartlover Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Yes Tate, I feel the same way. I am an Artist who has not picked up a brush or a sketch pad in years due to family and life taking over. However I like to create things, and I stumbled on poetry and short story writing after a friend suggested I give it a try. I sometimes wonder if I have anything worth giving to the world, yet my poetry seems to make people happy, and make them say "I KNOW that feeling" or "I wish I had been able to express that feeling at the time"...so I keep going.
One day I will publish a book, as friends keep asking me to do it.
Joy :rose:
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009  Professional Photographer
You just nailed my feelings exactly. Sometimes I think anything I was meant to do I probably should have done a decade ago and then people seem to love my photos and I wonder. Anytime I can do a photo and get reactions from people that say my work moved them or inspired them makes it all seem worth it. :)

Yes, you should write a book!
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femaleartlover Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Thanks Tate! I may just do that !...one day....
Joy :rose:
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tatehemlock Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2009  Professional Photographer
Well I for one def think that you should! :)
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